ok thanks, and yeah, if we work together on our games it could go pretty well. (tho yours will be harder than mine probably) i think we both need ai (i dont need it yet) but when the time comes i could use the one here (or the one that WILL be here) what i need to do now in my game is make a map, load the map, change the bg... PChicken said something about moving around the map... idk... forgot.